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Fenugreek seed vs leaf

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Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by marf » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:03 pm

Whats the difference in flavour?

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by rfr » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:08 pm

they are both very different the seeds and powder are quite bitter,i only use the leaf these days.

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by Cory Ander » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:15 pm

Hi Marf,

You will also find some more information on dried leaf v fresh leaf v seeds/powder here

And a pre-existing thread on fenugreek powder here

But I think you have since discovered those threads?
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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by heirpin » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:58 am

anyone ever tried growing from seed?

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by heirpin » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:26 pm

ah, just found this which definitely answers my question!!

http://bircurries.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=502

..I'll give it a go.....

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Methi vs Fenugreek

Post by Sgwerk » Tue May 31, 2016 2:11 am

Hi all. This is my first post ! I'm attempting to learn BIR style cooking and several recipes call for fenugreek leaves or fenugreek powder. At my local Indian market they sell both fenugreek and methi. Is there a difference between the two ? And if so is one more commonly used in BIR cooking than the other?

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Re: Methi vs Fenugreek

Post by Squibo » Tue May 31, 2016 8:11 am

Methi = Dried Leaf (Crushed)
Funugreek Powder = Ground Seed

I would say (Kasoori) Methi is by far the more common ingredient.

Hope that helps :)

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by pauly » Tue May 31, 2016 9:32 am

I've merged your post Sgwerk to an existing topic.

As Squibo says, the methi leaves are the crushed dried leaves of fenugreek, used in most BIR curries, the fenugreek seeds are ground & are a nice addition to a mix powder sometimes.

I notice this is your first post, why not go to New Member Introductions, & tell us something about yourself ?

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by Cory Ander » Tue May 31, 2016 11:29 am

I think there is some generally misunderstanding about "methi"/"fenugreek". As far as I'm aware "methi" is simply the Hindi word for "fenugreek" (whether one is referring to the seeds, the powdered seeds, the fresh herb or the dried leaves).

Dried fenugreek leaves are far more savoury and pungent than fenugreek seeds or powdered seeds. They are often added to main dish curries (as a dried herb) to add savouriness to a curry.

Fenugreek seeds and powdered seeds (which can be quite bitter and should be used in moderation) are added as most whole spices and powdered spices are added (i.e. they are dry roasted and/or fried at the start of the cooking process). Fenugreek seeds/powdered seeds may also be added to curry powder (or "spice mix" or "masala") and to a curry base (also to impart "savouriness").

Fenugreek seeds/powdered seeds aren't really interchangeable with dried fenugreek leaves since they are quite different - much like coriander seeds/powdered seeds and fresh coriander leaves are quite different.
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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by Rusty » Tue May 31, 2016 12:19 pm

I never used fenugreek until I joined the forum, the Indian grocery store and curry house where I get my spices explained similar to how CA explained it and gave me methi leaves. He also told me to rub the leaves in palm of hand and add to curry just before serving but have not tried this yet.

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by macferret » Tue May 31, 2016 4:57 pm

We have grown methi. It's very easy - easier than coriander. We have a couple of home recipes such as methi saag-wallah which use the fresh leaves, but we never put them on our menu as fresh methi is used much like spinach: it's a bulk ingredient that we can't buy here in France, and I'm not interested in a methi polytunnel!
We also sprout methi - within a week you have some nice crunchy bean sprouts with a mild taste. We just use the methi seeds bought from our Indian spice supplier, but we find that only certain batches will sprout. Maybe an age or storage thing.
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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by HeehawBaws » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:14 pm

Lately I've been thinking that my boxes are filled more with Fenugreek stem than leaf. Even a blast in the electric grinder doesn't chop them up.

I bought a packet of seeds and have replaced the ubiquitous "tsp of fenugreek leaves" with freshly grounbd seeds and I think it's a lot better. It seems lika a more satisfying taste that's a tiny step closer to what I'm looking for.

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by taliyah » Tue May 09, 2017 4:39 pm

I think stems in some brands of Kasuri Methi are more prevalent than others, I’ve just bought a box of Zeeshan brand @79p
Less storks than usual, lovely strong Indian aroma. highly Recommended.

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by Papaz » Tue May 09, 2017 5:30 pm

I believe the leaf is a lot more common. The seeds are quite bitter and I can't say I have felt the need for adding the seeds. Leaves give the flavour I'm looking for.

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Re: Fenugreek seed vs leaf

Post by pauly » Tue May 09, 2017 6:25 pm

Fenugreek seeds are part of Panch Phoran , I can't say I've found them bitter, rather very savoury.

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